US ambassador to Israel on allegations that Israel ceded to Hezbollah over Lebanon gas deal: ‘Ridiculous’

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TEL AVIV (JTA) Taking aim at claims made by Israels opposition leaders, including opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu, Americas top diplomatic representative to Israel shot down claims that the US-brokered deal on gas and maritime borders between Israel and Lebanon was a surrender to Hezbollah .

That is ridiculous, Ambassador Tom Nides told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency in an exclusive interview on Friday. He also rejected arguments by his predecessor, David Friedman, who tweeted that dividends from the dispute maritime gas fields would go 100% to Lebanon and 0% to Israel.

I have enormous respect for David [Friedman] and Im not in any way criticizing him, Nides said. However, its wrong. In fact, former Prime Minister Netanyahu also supported a very similar deal a few years ago.

The gas deal, now facing last-minute hurdles, has topped the news in the region in past weeks. Nides and the US administration see it as a historic deal that he said would be good for Lebanon and good for the Israelis in particular. The US ambassador still believes that it is possible to overcome differences and reach a deal, despite last-minute changes introduced by Lebanon and mounting criticism by the Israeli opposition.

Im quite confident we will get this done. Obviously, in no way will we ever support something that would create a security risk for the state of Israel or put Israel at a disadvantage, Nides said.

He stressed that America is playing the role of an honest broker and flatly denied suggestions that the deal now proposed is significantly different than discussed in the past, while Netanyahu served as prime minister.

Its not true, Nides said. The reality is that the basis is basically the same and ultimately the benefits will be similar to what it would have been several years ago.

Nides, 61, who took on his post in Israel last December, has a reputation of being open, and at times direct, even within the diplomatic confines in which he operates. In a wide-ranging interview in Tel Aviv, he took on some of the toughest issues creating friction between Jerusalem and Washington, including religious pluralism in Israel, settlement expansion, growing tensions between Israel and the Palestinian Authority and the upcoming elections in Israel.

Religious freedom and political extremism

Nides, who grew up in Minnesota as a liberal Reform Jew and went to synagogue only during the High Holidays, is a firm believer in equality at the Western Wall in Jerusalem, known in Hebrew as the Kotel. Recent incidents in which American Jewish families were attacked while celebrating their childrens bar and bat mitzvahs did not go unnoticed by the US ambassador.

I have no tolerance for anyone being hurt or attacked for doing what they believe is their religious belief at the Western Wall. Both on the Orthodox and Reform side, and for women and men. I think everyone should use this religious site for their own spirituality, he said.

Nides has been personally involved on this issue.

I have had the opportunity to spend many evenings with the rabbi of the wall [Shmuel Rabinovich, an Orthodox rabbi]. I go to the Kotel quite often, and Im respectful, but I make our position very clear vis a vis the importance of observing and non-observing Jews to share this beautiful place, he said. I like the rabbi but I disagree with him and some of the people around him on the conditions that should be set up for the non-religious Jews.

Religious pluralism, a concern that tops the agenda of many Jewish Americans, does not feature significantly in Israels upcoming elections, scheduled for Nov. 1. Much of the debate concentrates on the question of including far-right politicians, including Itamar Ben-Gvir, a former Kahanist known inciting violence against Arabs, in a future coalition, if Netanyahu forms the next government.

Itamar Ben-Gvir and right-wing activists protest against a meeting with bereaved Palestinian families outside the Rene Kasen high school in Jerusalem, March 29, 2022. (Yonatan Sindel/Flash90)

US Democrats have weighed in, sending clear warnings against the move.

Robert Menendez, chairman of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, reportedly told Netanyahu that including Ben-Gvir in his government would harm US-Israel relations. And on Tuesday, Rep. Brad Sherman, also a pro-Israel congressman, followed suit, urging Israeli politicians to ostracize Ben-Gvir.

Ben-Gvirs outrageous views run contrary to Israels core principles of a democratic and Jewish state, Sherman said. These extremists undermine Israels interests and the US-Israel relationship, which I and my colleagues have worked to strengthen.

Nides, cautiously stressing that he wont get involved in the politics of Israel before an election, stood firm on the right of American politicians to voice their opinions on the issue: We are free to articulate our anxieties or concerns vis-a-vis making sure that the values ​​that we state are played out here in Israel as well as we believe they should be.

west bank violence

The Israeli military has operated against Palestinian militants and terror suspects in the West Bank on an almost daily base since March, when Israel was hit by a terror wave.

More than 100 Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank in 2022, making it the most deadly year since 2015.

We are always worried. We worry about the things happening in Nablus and Jenin, and we are obviously concerned about Israels security, Nides said. He articulated a US position that seeks to embolden the Palestinian Authority and acknowledge its role, at a time when President Mahmoud Abbas grip on the authority is widely seen as slipping away.

We work with the PA every day, to help them provide the security they want. We want the PA to take their own lead with their own people. The PA has no interest in having terrorist cells exist in the West Bank, Nides said.

Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid gives a speech during the 77th session of the United Nations General Assembly at UN headquarters, Sept. 22, 2022. (Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)

While peace negotiations between the Israelis and Palestinians seem further away than ever, Nides praised Yair Lapid for his brave comments on the importance of the two-state solution, referring to the Israeli prime ministers recent speech at the United Nations General Assembly.

We are under no illusions here that I will be standing in the Rose Garden [at the White House] receiving the Nobel Peace Prize for getting the two-state solution, but its important that we create the conditions on the ground for a two-state solution, Nides said. And that includes helping the Palestinian people.

On the issue of the expansion of Jewish settlements in the West Bank, Nides reiterated the Biden administrations policy, saying, We do not support settlement growth. Period. I work every day behind the scenes, with the Israelis, to try and eliminate, slow down or avoid that.

He added, This is a sovereign country. We cant dictate to them what they can or cant do, but I can put as much pressure as I can to make sure they understand our position.

Israels neighbors, including Iran

The Trump administration deserves praise for the Abraham Accords, Nides said, explaining that they created a startup and we want to grow it into a real company.

Israelis have emphasized their wish to expand the Abraham Accords to include other Arab nations, primarily Saudi Arabia. Nides is cautious.

Ultimately, in sort of a dreamy way, it would be great if the Saudis normalized relations with Israel. Its obviously the big prize. But this is not just about collecting countries, but about going deeper on security and taking this to a whole new level, he said. Its imperative that we focus on whats in front of us instead of chasing the next shiny object.

A picture shows a view of an Israeli military base at Rosh Hanikra, known in Lebanon as Ras al-Naqura, at the border between the two countries, Oct. 4, 2022. (Jalaa Marey/AFP via Getty Images)

Nides mentioned Jordan and Egypt as examples of countries that deserve Israels focus. After years of deteriorating relations between Israel and Jordan, a full-scale diplomatic effort to restore ties was launched in the last year.

While nurturing and striking new friendships in the region is a goal for Israel, the issue of Irans nuclear program remains a top priority. With a breakdown of the nuclear negotiations between world powers and Iran, the threat of escalation between Jerusalem and Tehran looms.

Conditions for returning to the nuclear deal with Iran have not been met, Nides said. The ball is in Irans court, he added.

But whether a deal is reached, as the Biden administration hopes, or not, as Israel wishes, Nides said the United States wont dictate Israels behavior toward Iran.

We will not tie Israels hands, Nides said. They dont tell us everything but we have a pretty good security cooperation with them. We are not going to tell them what they can or cant do. Theres full transparency between the US and Israel.

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